Worst mass murders
There's a lot of cherry picking when the media, wikipedia, or others try to differentiate between a single mass shooter, or terrorist attacks -- but why? Would you rather be blown to bits by a team of extremists or shot to death by one? It's a distinction without a difference. Places that outlaw guns also tend to oppress their people (minorities) in ways that can lead to backlash/terrorism, so trading one for the other is a net loss. Certainly in the U.S. outlawing and oppressing gun owners would lead to more radicalism (as Tim McVeigh proved). Thus while the media will report that every shooting is the worst massacre in the U.S., and imply that this is unique to the U.S., it helps to remember the horrible events that happened in places with strict gun control and consider our alternative:
- 2019.04.21 Sri Lanka Easter Attack - 🇱🇰 Colombo, Sri Lanka: After ignoring warnings, 8 blasts hit 3 churches and Hotels in an Islamic Terror attack on Christians during Easter mass. Much of the media couldn't bring themselves to say Islamic Extremism or Christian victims. Clinton and Obama colluded to shit-tweet a new term, "Easter Worshipers", in order to avoid saying "Christians". Add to this their mealy mouthed condemnation of an organized terrorist attack against Christians, which lies in sharp contrast to their harsh broad brushing of all whites/right wingers for the acts of a lone crazy liberal in New Zealand, just a couple weeks earlier.
- 2019.03.14 Christchurch Shooting - 🇳🇿Christchurch, New Zealand: a left wing eco-nationalist (who hates Capitalism, Conservatism, and is Chinese Communist sympathizer) shot-up a couple mosques because immigrants were over-populating the planet and causing Global Warming. Because the shooter said he didn't like Donald Trump's politics or leadership, the media said he was a right wing Trump supporter. He had illegally modified guns, used guns instead of more effective bombs because he said that would turn the left into his tools in dividing nations like the U.S. over gun-control, and he was stopped/slowed at the second mosque because a good guy was able to get a gun and scare him off. (It was one the shooter had dropped). So the media does his bidding, calls for division and gun control, and ignores the role that a good-guy with a gun had in reducing the carnage. NZ threatens to punish anyone that makes the info about his true motives available.
- 2018.04.23 Toronto van attack - 🇨🇦 Toronto, Canada: Ex military man (for a few weeks) and Software developer (Alek Minassian) drove a rented van through the North York City Centre business district, deliberately targeting pedestrians, killing 10 and injuring (some critically)16 more. He tried to provoke an officer into killing him (commit suicide-by-cop), but this was Canada, so they were polite about arresting him instead. His reasoning was he was Incel (involuntary celibate) and envious of men for getting sex when he couldn't, and mad a Women for not putting out. Not one of the biggest attacks, but scaled for population, that would be equivalent to 100 people dead in the U.S.
- 2016.07.14 Nice truck attack - 🇫🇷 Nice, France: not to be confused with the 2015 stabbings or 2003 bombing, in 2016 Mohamed Lahouaiej-Bouhlel (Tunisian immigrant), drove a truck through Bastille Day crowds on Promenade des Anglais. ISIS/ISIL took credit for the Islamic Terrorist Attack ☪️.
- 2015.11.13 November Paris Attacks - 🇫🇷 Paris, France: a series of shootings, bombings was done in the name of ISIS/ISIL ☪️, including the Bataclan theatre shooting (that killed 90). 3 groups of men committed 6 attacks (including 4 suicide bombings). Despite gun-control and illegal bombs, they had assault weapons and bombs, who knew terrorists would disobey gun control laws? Despite Turkish, Iraqi, and Israeli intelligences all warning of an imminent attack on France months beforehand, they were ignored by the French authorities.
- 2015.01.07 Charlie Hebdo - 🇫🇷 Paris, France: two brothers, armed with illegal rifles, forced their way into the offices of Charlie Hebdo (Satire paper), and started shooting people in retaliation for the paper having a cartoon of Muhammad on their cover. Al-Qaeda's Yemen branch too credit for the Attack ☪️. There were related attacks, Hypercacher kosher supermarket attack, they killed 4 Jews and held 19 hostages.
- 2011.07.22 Anders Breivik - 🇳🇴 Utøya, Norway: after planning for 9 years, writing a 1,500 page manifesto, an anti-immigrant nationalist set-off bombs in Oslo, and then took a ferry to an island (Utøya) and sniped at kids for 1 hour and 12 minutes before the police arrived and he surrendered without resistance. One of the deadliest single shooter killings in the world, in one of the strictest gun control and most surveilled countries in the world. When seconds count, the cops are just 1 hour and 12 minutes away.
- 2009.03.11 Winnenden (School) - 🇩🇪 Winnenden, Germany: 17-year-old (Tim Kretschmer) took his parents legally owned pistol, and went back to his high school, and started a shooting spree. When the cops arrived, he fled 25 miles to a neighboring town and shot some more people before he committed suicide. The Germans prosecuted the father, since the gun hadn't been secured in a safe.
- 2008.11.26 Mumbai attacks - 🇮🇳 Mumbai, India: in strict gun-controlled India, a group of 10 Pakistani terrorists committed 12 shootings and bombings over 4 days, killing over 175 people, while the Police had missed warnings, it took 10 hours to get commando's to the scene, and they showed up late to every event (like the keystone cops). This after they had decades to plan and train from the prior attacks.
- 2006.07.11 Mumbai Train Bombings - 🇮🇳 Mumbai, India: in strict gun-controlled India, 7 pressure-cooker bombs went off over 11 minutes and killed 209 people (700+ injured). There was also an unrelated grenade attack that killed 8 in Srinagar on the same day, but those are a semi-regular occurrence.
- 2004.09.01 Beslan Massacre - 🇷🇺 Beslan, Russia: Despite having some of the strictest gun controls in the world, in a police state, Chechen islamic separatists ☪️ took over a school with automatic weapons, and took 1,100 hostages, kept them in the auditorium rigged with explosives. Russian security forces stormed the building with tanks, incendiary rockets and other heavy weapons -- and 334 civilians (186 kids) were killed, as were the 34 hostage takers. The European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) criticized Russia for lack of security in advance, and excessive lethal force during the event.
- 2002.04.26 Erfurt (School) - 🇩🇪 Efurt, Germany: A 19-year-old expelled student (Robert Steinhäuser) shot and killed 16 people and then himself using shotguns and a pistol. The lack of an assault rifle didn't reduce the death count.
- 1995.06.14 Budyonnovsk hospital crisis - 🇷🇺 Budyonnovsk, Russia: Despite having some of the strictest gun controls in the world, in a police state, Chechen islamic separatists ☪️ came inland over 70 miles, killing over 191 people, and took up to 2,500 hostages in a hospital with automatic weapons, to force Russia into peace talks.
- 1993.03.12 Bombay bombings - 🇮🇳 Mumbai (Bombay), India: in strict gun-controlled India, 12 bombs were set off, killing 257 people, done by a local mob boss (of D-company) in retaliation for riots that had killed 900 muslims (and injured 2,000), 5 years earlier. Initial reports had higher numbers, but that was due to bombings in Calcutta (that killed 60 and injured hundreds more), but was later found to be unrelated.
- 1972.09.05 Munich Olympics - 🇩🇪 Munich, Germany: the Palestinian terrorist group Black September took eleven Israeli Olympic team members hostage (with illegal assault weapons) and demanded that 234 Palestinian terrorists be freed in Israel. They killed the hostages along with a West German police officer during a failed rescue attempt. 5 of the 8 terrorists were killed, 3 were captured and released in a hostage exchange, only to be hunted and killed by the IDF later.
- Germany: 2016 Christmas market truck attack 12 dead, 49 injured. Following 10 dead and 35 injured the same year in Munich School shooting. And in 2009 they had 16 dead, 9 injured in the Winnenden school shooting. And in 2002 17/7 in the Erfurt massacre. And of course 17 dead in the the infamous Munich Olympics Massacre. Why doesn't gun control work in Germany?
- South Korea: 1982 Woo Bum-kon kills 57, wounds 35, despite very strict gun (and grenade) control.
- China: if strict gun control can't work in a communist police state, then what chance does it have of working in the U.S.? Yang Qingpei stabbed 19 people to death in 2016. There were 35 dead 140 injured in the 2014 Kunming attack. And at least a dozen spree killers murdering an average of 10 people, between 2000-2016. 2002 had 24 dead and 13 injured in the Beijing Cyber Cafe Arson. 2001 Jin Ruchao killed 109, injured 38 using bombs. 1998 had 23 dead in the "Long wins round robbery", following 32 dead in the 1994 Qiandao Lake robbery. That's what we know of: China suppresses most reports of events like this. And that's before counting the 2,000,000 dead in the immediate aftermath of Mao'speople's paradise, then 18-55 million dead in the Great Leap Forward, and another 1.5 million dead (36 million persecuted) in the Cultural Revolution.
- North Korea:
Good thing these places had strict gun control, or someone might have gotten hurt.
- It turns out that guns are actually a fairly ineffective tool on committing mass casualties: loud, draw attention, give people warning to run-away, requires line-of-site.
- Assuming anyone around has a gun and can engage the shooter, the casualties are lessened. However, if individuals aren't allowed to defend themselves or the public, then shooting sprees can go on for an hour and 12 minutes, like in the Norway example. Saving lives is about response times, and the police are always further away that local folks (with conceal and carry permits): so more usually die waiting for the cops than when civilians have a chance to defend their fellow man.
- Forcing bad guys to use better means of doing mass damage may be the goal of the anti-liberty left, but I'd prefer if we focused on the criminality, and not the tool -- the latter is divisive, distracting, doesn't get anywhere but harming innocents, and increases the body count.
Most of the biggest mass murders were in countries with much stricter gun-control laws than our own, so what did we learn? I know, trick question, if the left wanted to learn, they would have a long time ago, and wouldn't be advocating for divisive distractions like Gun-Control.
The reason politicians focus on the wrong things? Either they're ignorant or they know the facts and are doing it intentionally. In the latter case, the reasoning can best be described as, if you fix/help problems, you can't campaign on fixing them in the future. So the gun-controllers exist to perpetuate fake solutions (while people die), in order to get money and attention.