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This section will have articles related to AGW (Anthropogenic Global Warming), Climate Change, and other stuff. It's hard to talk about these issues today, as so many people who don't know the first thing about Climate or the debate, are 100% sure that anyone who doesn't agree with them is wrong.

Climate Consensus

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To begin with, consensus isn't Science. Consensus is either the bandwagon fallacy or the appeal to authority fallacy. Consensus/popularity is politics. Science is skepticism.

Places that use the 97% Scientific Consensus for AGW (Anthropogenic Global Warming) fall into one of two groups: (a) those completely unaware of where that comes from (b) those that are dishonest polemics who know how shoddy the claim is, but they publish them anyway. There really isn't a lot of middle ground on this one. The actual consensus is surprisingly small, and the studies that say otherwise are embarrassingly bad, and the one thing that most Scientists seem to have a stronger consensus on, is that IPCC and the media are misleading the public (and overhyping things).

List of Climate Skeptics

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Science is skepticism, if someone isn't a skeptic, then they're not a scientist: they're a politician. So the point isn't who is on this list, but who isn't. While I believe people are entitled to their own opinions (pro/con on this issue), if someone is dismissing folks like Freeman Dyson, Nobel laureate Ivar Giaever, or those who were in charge of NASA, or heads of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at Georgia Institute of Technology, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, and so on, then I want to see their pedigree or evidence for thinking those folks are ignorant deniers that don't know what they're talking about.

CO2: Understanding the basics

If you believe a slew of articles that are out there like these Tipping Point articles , then earth has passed the carbon tipping point (400 ppm of CO2, which we cross the other day), which means 6-7° of more warming is coming, which will; destroy humanity, cook off the planet, flood our cities, and we're doomed. Good, now maybe the know-nothings will shut the hell up and let us get on with our lives, while they're repeatedly proven wrong over the coming decades, just like they have been for the last couple hundred years.

Forcing Factors

  • What impacts the climate? In order of importance they are: Solar output, variations in the Earths Orbit (Milankovitch cycle), Volcanism, Meteorological events, Plate Tectonics, Ocean Variability, Radiative forcing (greenhouse effect is a small part of this), Flora and Fauna
  • Radiative forcing is one of the weakest of the forcing factors impacting the Earth's climate. The greenhouse effect is a second weakest part of radiative forcing. And CO2 is a very small part of the greenhouse effect. And man contributed a minuscule amount of CO2.
  • Every part of forcing factors are still debated, especially the important ones carbon sequestration, cloud albedo, and CO2 scrubbing (how fast can the earth correct for increases in CO2). If the earth wasn't a self-balancing system, then why didn't we cook-off in the last 4.5B years, or back when we had 10x the CO2 we have today?

Greenhouse Effect

  • Radiative forcing is one of the weakest of the forcing factors impacting the Earth's climate. The greenhouse effect is a second weakest part of radiative forcing. And CO2 is a very small part of the greenhouse effect. How small? Mankind contributes 14Gt of the 22,056,773+ Gt of all greenhouse gasses in our system (about .0004%).

Climate History

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  • CO2 has never caused any global warming (that we can tell) in the historical record. None.
  • Historically, warming causes the oceans to release more CO2, and then we saw CO2 rise as a result of the other warming.
  • Some speculate that the CO2 released from this warming magnified the warming that was happening, but that doesn't explain why we cooled down again (even with higher CO2 levels).
  • Remember, we had ice ages with 7,000 or 8,000 ppm of CO2, and for the last few million years the average CO2 level has been over 1,000 ppm (twice the current levels).
  • We’ve gone up from 300-400 PPM in the last 200 years -- however, half of that happened before man contributed much to the CO2 cycle at all (beginning around 1950 when man first crossed the 1 gigaton/year level), and much of the rest was due to the Oceans releasing CO2.

Leonardo Dicaprio

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Hypocritical Sanctimonious High School Drop-out and thespian-activist lives in large mansions, flies around the world on private jets, making movies, each with the carbon footprint exceeding the average coal mine, then likes to lecture the rest of us on how to be greener and how important the climate is?

This is who you think we should all get our "science" facts from? Or maybe Al Gore? These dimwits think a Milankovitch cycle is a fancy Polish Motorcycle. I prefer folks who actually know science.

Climate Quotes

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The Population Bomb (1968)
"The battle to feed humanity is over. In the 1970s, the world will undergo famines. Hundreds of millions of people are going to starve to death in spite of any crash programs embarked upon now.
Paul Ehrlich
1969
"It is now pretty clearly agreed that the CO2 content [in the atmosphere] will rise 25% by 2000. This could increase the average temperature near the earth’s surface by 7 degrees Fahrenheit. This in turn could raise the level of the sea by 10 feet. Goodbye New York. Goodbye Washington, for that matter."
Presidential advisor Daniel Moynihan
Earth Day (1970)
"In ten years all important animal life in the sea will be extinct. Large areas of coastline will have to be evacuated because of the stench of dead fish.
Paul Ehrlich
Earth Day 1970
"“Civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind. We are in an environmental crisis which threatens the survival of this nation, and of the world as a suitable place of human habitation,”
Barry Commoner Washington University
April 1970.
"“(By 1995) somewhere between 75 and 85 percent of all the species of living animals will be extinct.”
Sen. Gaylord Nelson, quoting Dr. S. Dillon Ripley
Look magazine
Spring 1970.
"“By the year 2000…the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America and Australia, will be in famine,”
Peter Gunter, North Texas State University
The Living Wilderness
1971
"“By the year 2000 the United Kingdom will be simply a small group of impoverished islands, inhabited by some 70 million hungry people … If I were a gambler, I would take even money that England will not exist in the year 2000.”
Paul Ehrlich
May 16, 1972
"Arctic specialist Bernt Balchen says a general warming trend over the North Pole is melting the polar ice cap and may produce an ice-free Arctic Ocean by the year 2000.
Los Angles Times


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