Talk: VoterID and Voter Fraud
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- 2014, political scientists Jesse Richman and David Earnest, writing in the Washington Post
e most notorious such sources are documents prepared by the American Center for Voting Rights (“ACVR”), a controversial organization established in early 2005 and apparently defunct just over two years later.5 e ACVR produced two reports — one compiling allegations of fraud in Ohio in 2004, and another compiling allegations of fraud in 2004 nationwide.6 e ACVR has also repeated these and other allegations in amicus briefs led in litigation related to voter identi cation provisions.7
Former Wall Street Journal editorial board member and weekly columnist John Fund has also recounted several speci c allegations of voter fraud in his 2004 book Stealing Elections
o they don’t want it to stop. Since everyone would want a better, more fair, election, they have to pretend the very idea is absurd, and create spin
http://conservativetribune.com/hidden-cam-new-york-official-cheat/
Oh look, an idiot partisan judge in Wisconsin? Who knew? Let's see, he overrode the Supreme Court, and ignored all the evidence to the contrary -- as well as logic. (If you don't check ID at the polls, you can't know how much fraud is going on). This is like saying, since we don't have a police force, and there's no convictions, that no crimes are being committed. Uh huh.
People voting for a few years after their dead? Districts with 120% turn out, and everyone voting for a single candidate. Audits that show that fraud was happening on a massive scale. Multiple convictions in other states of people admitting to voting multiple times. Agents proving how easy it is in many states. Tons of witnesses that complained about it. In Cleveland, the Union Busses from Pittsburg Unions would roll into districts so all the Unions guys could vote, get in the bus, and then go on to Toledo and Detroit. (Yeah, I'm sure they weren't voting in all those places). And so on.
All this shows is that you can't reason with the far left. That Judge should not only be overturned, but fired for blatant partisanship or idiocy.
Here's just a sampling of the counter arguments.
Bus them around
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUDTcxIqqM0
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/375021/dems-voter-fraud-denial-john-fund
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILJDudUpct0&feature=share
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/368234/voter-fraud-weve-got-proof-its-easy-john-fund
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/390893/james-okeefe-strikes-again-john-fund
Obama
National Review FAQ
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/438981/donald-trump-voter-fraud-warning-hes-right-media-philadelphia-pennsylvania?utm_source=NR&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=August15fund
https://www.facebook.com/nationalreview/videos/10157410268980093/?hc_ref=NEWSFEED
http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/illegal-voters-uncovered-philly-just-tip-iceberg/
http://hotair.com/archives/2016/10/06/voter-fraud-never-happens-uncovered-illinois/
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Tom Tracy
Lansing, Michigan, the City Clerk's office complained in late September about 5,000 to 8,000 fraudulent voter-registration forms that had recently come in—courtesy, election officials believed, of the Public Interest Research Group, a liberal advocacy outfit.
In the 2000 election, as the Missouri Secretary of State later discovered, 56,000 St. Louis-area voters held multiple voter registrations. No one knows how much actual fraud took place, but it may have played a role in the Democratic defeats of incumbent Republican Senator John Ashcroft, who lost his seat by 49,000 votes, and gubernatorial candidate Jim Talent, who lost by 21,000 votes. June 2006: Report of the Investigation into the November 2, 2004 General Election in the City of Milwaukee [Wisconsin]
The report directly implicated the John Kerry campaign and allied get-out-the-vote organizations in widespread illegal voting committed by their campaign workers, many of whom came from out-of-state. The most common method they used was to abuse the state’s same-day voter registration law, which allowed anyone to show up at the polls, register and then cast a ballot. Local election officials who asked for proof of residence from these Kerry campaign staff members were often stymied when “other staff members who were registered voters vouched for them by corroborating their residency. More alarmingly, other staff members who were deputy registrars for this election simply registered these individuals as Milwaukee residents, bypassing Election officials altogether. The actions of the listed campaign and 527 staff members appear to be violations of State of Wisconsin law….”
http://topbuzzapp.com/article/i6342487400823915011?app_id=1106
http://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/voters-poll-concern-election-security-photo-id-laws-fraud
http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2016/10/daily-chart-11 http://www.gallup.com/poll/5392/trust-government.aspx
Pew 24 M voters are inaccurate
http://kissfm969.com/early-voters-from-amarillo-are-saying-their-votes-were-changed-on-the-ballot/
http://hotair.com/archives/2016/10/25/theyre-illegal-immigrants-go-door-door-behalf-hillary/
http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2016/10/25/texas-voting-machines-clinton-kaine-straight-republican/
http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/contesting-elections-is-part-of-the-democrat-playbook/
Oh look, an idiot partisan judge in Wisconsin? Who knew? Let's see, he overrode the Supreme Court, and ignored all the evidence to the contrary -- as well as logic. (If you don't check ID at the polls, you can't know how much fraud is going on). This is like saying, since we don't have a police force, and there's no convictions, that no crimes are being committed. Uh huh.
People voting for a few years after their dead? Districts with 120% turn out, and everyone voting for a single candidate. Audits that show that fraud was happening on a massive scale. Multiple convictions in other states of people admitting to voting multiple times. Agents proving how easy it is in many states. Tons of witnesses that complained about it. In Cleveland, the Union Busses from Pittsburg Unions would roll into districts so all the Unions guys could vote, get in the bus, and then go on to Toledo and Detroit. (Yeah, I'm sure they weren't voting in all those places). And so on.
All this shows is that you can't reason with the far left. That Judge should not only be overturned, but fired for blatant partisanship or idiocy.
Here's just a sampling of the counter arguments.
http://thefederalist.com/2016/10/13/voter-fraud-real-heres-proof/
Bus them around https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUDTcxIqqM0
http://www.star-telegram.com/news/politics-government/election/article108539187.html
Dead people vote:
http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/09/for_those_who_dont_believe_in_election_fraud.html
https://www.projectveritas.com/voter-fraud-eric-holder-in-washington-dc/
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/375021/dems-voter-fraud-denial-john-fund
http://www.usnews.com/debate-club/is-voter-fraud-a-real-problem/voter-fraud-deniers-ignore-the-facts
http://www.truethevote.org/news/how-widespread-is-voter-fraud-2012-facts-figures
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILJDudUpct0&feature=share
http://www.punditpress.com/2012/11/breaking-st-lucie-county-florida-had.html
Afganistan can do it:
http://allenbwest.com/2014/04/photo-ids-fail-suppress-afghan-vote-never-mind-suicide-bombs/
If there was no evidence of voter fraud, it wouldn't be so easy to write books like this on the topic (they'd be debunked). Instead they provide chapters of evidence -- that the Democrats/Left deny, and pretend is just made up by the right. (Proving their partisan bias).
http://www.amazon.com/Stealing-Elections-Voter-Threatens-Democracy/dp/1594032246
Here's the real reason Democrats don't want VoterID:
Crooked Politics: Obama Lost in Every State With Photo ID Law http://american3rdposition.com/?p=8416
Yes, there are sites like this next one, that prey on the ignorance or partisanism of the left -- but the obvious logical fallacy (besides the emotional appeals and distractions), is that a lack of convictions/prosecutions demonstrates the problems. You can't catch or convict if you haven't been checking ID's, because you can't prove it wasn't them that voted. Either the authors of this site are complete morons to not know that -- or they are frauds/liars willing to spin things for their agenda. I assume the latter.
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2014/10/29/massive-non-citizen-voting-uncovered-in-maryland/
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/368234/voter-fraud-weve-got-proof-its-easy-john-fund
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/390893/james-okeefe-strikes-again-john-fund