If our gun laws are reasonable, then they won't have unreasonable outcomes. There wouldn't be unreasonable prosecutions, people wouldn't be getting their lives ruined by gun laws or over aggressive prosecutors, as if the laws were reasonably designed and written, they would have checks against those abuses. A single example disproves the ideas that gun laws are reasonable, and we have more than a single example.
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|The left's view of the world is that they only want reasonable gun laws, and that all the laws they've passed are reasonable. It's hard to find one they think isn't reasonable.||If that's true, then there would be no examples of unreasonable outcomes. (Reasonable laws have reasonable checks against abuse). Thus any of these examples disprove the reasonableness of gun controllers and their laws. Of course there would also be some observable positive effects when enacting the laws, and consequences for eliminating them, but there's no supporting data for those outcomes. Quite the opposite.|
- 2015.07.14 Elizabeth Griffith - Liz didn't know that her Florida conceal and carry didn't apply in New Jersey, so she was arrested and facing 10 years in prison for her mistake. Governor Chris Christie (R) pardoned her to get around the unreasonable law.
- 2015.06.28 Brian Fletcher - After a storm took out cell service, a tower climber from North Carolina organized his crew in under an hour, to drive up to New Jersey and do some disaster relief for Trenton, New Jersey. While waiting between tower jobs a NJ police officer asked what they were doing and he explained, and informed the officer that he had a legal firearm in his vehicle. Since New Jersey doesn't recognize the 2A and other states rights to grant gun permits, they arrested him, and only released him on $25K bail, and considered granting a plea deal to 36 months probation. Republican Governor Chris Christie recieved a large petition with many signatures, so pardoned him. But was that a reasonable law?
- 2015.02.13 Charged for owning an antique gun - A 72-year-old retired schoolteacher and historical memorabilia collector Gordon VanGilde got pulled over for the crime of driving in the wrong area, the police found a 250 year old 1700s era flintlock the collector had just acquired: a gun is a gun (there was no antique exemption in the law), so they charged him with owning an illegal weapon. After he retained a lawyer, the NRA publicized the abuse of power, and it went viral, the States prosecutor decided not to press charges. But they could have, and likely would have without the civil libertarians at the NRA calling unreasonable law.
- 2013 Shaneen Allen - A Pennsylvania resident named Shaneen Allen drove into New Jersey and was pulled over by police for an DWB (driving while black), under the premise of an, “unsafe lane change.” Allen informed the officer that she was carrying a concealed firearm, and presented her Pennsylvania carry license as proof of eligibility. Since New Jersey does not recognize Pennsylvania’s permit she was arrested, thrown in jail for 48 days, and faced a decade in prison for her mistake. Chris Christie (Republican Governor of NJ) stepped in and pardoned her (exempting her from overzealous prosecution), but was that law enforcement reasonable?
- 2010.07 Todd Doering - A Lansdale, Pennsylvania, resident was arrested when he crossed the border, and bought something in a New Jersey store (in Logan). Since he had no criminal record at all, when a cop discovered he had a gun in his car (and a right to carry in his own state), he was arrested and convicted of possessing a gun without a permit, and possessing standard hollow-point bullets. He was sentenced to two years' probation and a $100 fine, until pardoned years later by Governor Christ Christie (R).
What is reasonable when it comes to gun laws? I explain what it takes to be compliant with a few gun laws so that readers can decide how reasonable these laws are. Now I'm not a lawyer, and I don't play one on TV, so don't take this as legal advice. But these are just a small sampling of the 20,000: local, state and national gun control laws that every owner must know and comply with, under the legal concept of Ignorantia juris non excusat (Ignorance of the law is no excuse). The penalty for infraction is often a felony conviction, ruination and loss of gun rights by hyper-aggressive DA's who hate guns or want to get elected to higher office on the fraud that they're helping public safety. Or worse, the laws aren't enforced and teach both sides contempt for them. If any of these laws seem silly, annoying, or ineffective, you will begin to understand why gun-advocates mock and resist “reasonable gun control” and the legislators who create them.