Cagegate

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Does America break up families, keep kids in cages, and abuse illegal immigrants? Obviously, not enough or there would be far fewer illegal immigrants. (They're far more looped into the risks than the average Joe). The facts are this is rare, temporary, this has been done forever (and under the Obama and Clinton administrations), and the idea that criminals shouldn't be separated from their kids is absurd. Under the Democrats reasoning, for domestic crime, it is fine to separate families. But for foreign invaders and perpetrators should get special exceptions. But a nation without laws is no longer a nation.

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  • The viral image of immigrants from the Obama-era falsely attributed to the Trump administration, a photo of a child immigrant locked in a cage spread around by immigration activists has turned out to be yet more fake news: it was a staged photo from a pro-Immigrant / Anti-American group.
  • There was another photo from 2014 (Obama era), where there was a short term overflow: but the kids were cared for (not neglected), even if the optics seem bad. And this was not Trump era invention as many misreported.
  • John Favreau apologized for his polemic dishonesty by claiming ignorance, then doubled down in claiming the case that Trump is worse is strong without the evidence. (And provides no evidence to back up that claim). Clueless Obama lackey's are not known for their honesty, or wits.
  • John Cusack ranted about Trump, the evil fascist for doing this.... without ever checking the facts.
  • DNC politicians like Merkley spread lied about Trump administration and what was going on. He faked trying to get into a facility and getting turned away (a facility he was allowed access to). It just turns out access doesn't mean you get to walk with a camera crew and no warning for security reasons. (Facts he omitted from his reporting, just like the Obama era origins, and other misleading falsehoods).
  • The truth is the Feds pay $670/day to make sure the kids are well cared for. That's more than a room at the Ritz in many cities.
  • ABC and NBC both blame Trump for the Obama Era program, the very definition of FakeNews.
  • MSNBC played both sides, visiting a Texas detention facility that debunked their claims of caged heat (the facility was nice)... but they also falsely implied this was a new Trump admin policy. Then Morning Joe implies there are American Concentration camps, knowing full well that their own channel debunked the claims. Unless you think their fact checkers are too stupid to check their own channels reporting.

In the end, the real question is do you agree that there should be consequences for breaking the law? Y/N

  • If N, then you're an idiot that can be discounted, because a country without laws is not a country anyone wants to live in.
  • If Y, then keeping kids separate from potential felons in an adult prison, is for their own safety and is common sense. And that's a small price to pay for people seeking asylum as long as the kids are cared for, and the process is reasonable.

If you want to argue about whether the kids are being properly cared for, or whether the process is fast enough? Fine. Make that case, and I might agree with you. But that's not the argument most are making. They're arguing that a nation should have no right to imprison lawbreakers, or protect kids by not locking them up with their felon parents (and whoever was netted with them). And that's just stupid.

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Written 2018.06.14