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This section will have articles related to AGW (Anthropogenic Global Warming), Climate Change, and other stuff. It's hard to talk about these issues today, as so many people who don't know the first thing about Climate or the debate, are 100% sure that anyone who doesn't agree with them is wrong.

Climate Consensus

Main article: Climate Consensus

Consensus/popularity is politics, Science is skepticism (and proof). A quick glance and the 97% Scientific Consensus for AGW (Anthropogenic Global Warming), proves that those who repeat it are either fools (unaware of where it came from) or liars (dishonest), there really isn't a lot of middle ground on this one. The actual consensus is surprisingly small, and the studies that say otherwise are embarrassingly bad, and the one thing that most Scientists have a stronger consensus on, is that IPCC and the media are misleading the public (and overhyping things).

List of Climate Skeptics

Science is skepticism. If someone isn't a skeptic, then they're not a scientist: they're a politician. So the point isn't who is on this list, but who isn't. If anyone is dismissing Nobel laureates and Career Scientists on this list (like Fred Singer, Freeman Dyson, Ivar Giaever, William Happer, and so on), then I want to see their credentials or evidence. If they don't have any, then they're the deniers, polemics or cult followers who can be ignored.

CO2: Understanding the basics

If you believe a slew of articles that are out there like these Tipping Point articles , then earth has passed the carbon tipping point (400 ppm of CO2, which we cross the other day), which means 6-7° of more warming is coming, which will; destroy humanity, cook off the planet, flood our cities, and we're doomed. Good, now maybe the know-nothings will shut the hell up and let us get on with our lives, while they're repeatedly proven wrong over the coming decades, just like they have been for the last couple hundred years.

Forcing Factors

What impacts the climate? In order: (1) Solar output (2) variations in the Earths Orbit (Milankovitch cycle) (3) Volcanism (4) Meteorological events (5) Plate Tectonics (6) Ocean Variability (7) Radiative forcing (8) Flora and Fauna. Man impacts the weakest two. The greenhouse effect is the weakest part of radiative forcing, CO2 is on the weakest of the greenhouse gasses, and Man contributes <3% of the CO2. In Science, everything is in dispute. Only the politicians are sure.

Greenhouse Effect

  • Radiative forcing is one of the weakest of the Forcing Factors impacting the Earth's climate.
  • The Greenhouse Effect is a second weakest part of radiative forcing
  • CO2 is a very small part of the greenhouse effect. How small? Mankind contributes 14Gt of the 22,056,773+ Gt of all greenhouse gasses in our system (about .0004%).

Climate History

If you can't answer/address these points, then you're not up for a fact based discussion, and if you could, you'd win the Nobel prize:

  • Historically, CO2 does not correlate well with the climate at all (despite what Al Gore tells you).
  • Historically, CO2 never caused warming: warming causes the oceans to release CO2. This may magnify warming, but it has never caused it. Why not?
  • If CO2 caused warming, then why did the earth have ice ages (or cool down) when we've had up to 20x today's CO2 levels? (8,000 ppm)
  • CO2 has averaged over twice current levels for the last 3M years, and it's only gone up a 30% over the last 200 years.
  • Most of the CO2 and Temperature rise in the last 200 years was from BEFORE 1950's (when Man started putting out significant amounts of CO2).

Leonardo Dicaprio

Main article: Leonardo Dicaprio
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Hypocritical Sanctimonious High School Drop-out and thespian-activist lives in large mansions, flies around the world on private jets, making movies, each with the carbon footprint exceeding the average coal mine, then likes to lecture the rest of us on how to be greener and how important the climate is?

This is who you think we should all get our "science" facts from? Or maybe Al Gore? These dimwits think a Milankovitch cycle is a fancy Polish Motorcycle. I prefer folks who actually know science.

Climate Quotes

Main article: Climate Quotes

From the contradictions between cooling vs. warming, the devastation caused by the pollution or warming/cooling that never came, to the ice caps that are still fine, to the glaciers that never went away, or the plants and animals that are still thriving and so on. Malthusian catastrophe's predicted since time immemorial. The point isn't that we shouldn't study this stuff, it's that we should look at it with the skeptical eye of mature adults who have a clue as to how wrong the religion of Science has been in the past, to know to not overreact like gullible emotional children today.


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